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posted by [personal profile] panik at 09:20am on 19/01/2010 under ,
By all the love being heaped on Sherlock Holmes by the flist. I saw it yesterday and I've rarely been so bored by a film. Really, really bored, the kind of bored where you're writhing in your seat because your guts are twisting and you want to howl at the moon kind of bored. It was just one blasted idiot fight after another, over and over until you thought there couldn't possibly be another one coming - but you'd be wrong and they'd be off again. It was basically a Jackie Chan movie to which the names 'Holmes and Watson' had been amended. And was it really long, or did it just seem it? Gods, I wanted the bloody thing to end.

As for the slash - was there some?

Once again, I appear to be out of kilter with the flist.  Seems to be becomming a bit of a trend. I should probably just fold up my tent and slip away now.
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posted by [identity profile] at 09:23am on 19/01/2010
i have read all the ravings and i'm still not tempted to see it or even download it. i'll see it on tv in a few years. *shrug*
posted by [identity profile] at 09:31am on 19/01/2010
The trailer made me giggle but I wasn't especially tempted, then huge swathes of my flist said it was fabulous and... I don't get it, it was just an alright sort of action movie of the sort beloved by 14 yo boys which is fine if that's your bag it just isn't mine. I mean, just little bit of something cerebral and genuinely Holmesish would have been nice but it was just Bang Bang Bang Bang - the kind of movie that always bores me witless.

I'll be sticking with Jeremy Brett I think. Glad to see someone agrees with me! I feel like the mad person screaming about the end of the world with a bottle of cider in a brown bag on this one. *G*
posted by [identity profile] at 09:53am on 19/01/2010
While I didn't get a numb bum with boredom, I didn't think it was a fantastic movie and wont be rushing to see it again. A Sherlock Holmes for these times, perhaps, but not one I'm inclined to relate to. I think the problem was that I kept comparing it to From Hell with Johnny Depp and while I know that one detective has nothing to do with the other I remember finding this film far more gripping. Must go dig it out and watch it again to see if the old memory serves me correctly.
posted by [identity profile] at 10:07am on 19/01/2010
From Hell was a great movie but it didn't come with the same literary baggage (I like the literary baggage!) and was much less 'in your face' with the action as I recall. I admit, action films don't do it for me. There seemed precious little of the 'real' Holmes (or indeed Watson) in this at all, it was just all action all the time and I ached for something to engage my brain. Just not my thing - but then the things that set the flist on fire so rarely are these days, sadly.
posted by [identity profile] at 10:09am on 19/01/2010
haven't seen it yet, so you're safe for the moment. but if i *do* see it and like as much of the rest of the flist, well, then you'll be in REAL trouble, missy...
posted by [identity profile] at 10:11am on 19/01/2010
Tbh, not liking what the flist likes has become so routine these days I am well practised and prepared to deflect anything you care to throw at me with perfect ease.
posted by [identity profile] at 10:16am on 19/01/2010
damn your casual dismissal of my attempt at intimidation! :P

::is crushed::
posted by [identity profile] at 11:16am on 19/01/2010

heh. I hope you do enjoy the film, most peeps seem to.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:08am on 19/01/2010
I enjoyed the movie, but went into it with no literary baggage attached as I have never been a devotee of either the books, Brett, etc.

So I am with you in not quite getting the rush to fandom for it. It just didn't grab me that way. There were some nicely done moments, a few enjoyable set pieces - and RDJ can never do wrong by me. But I have no desire to rewatch it, or start reading and writing it.

So yeah, not quite as out of kilter as you, maybe. But not really in kilter, either.*g*
Edited Date: 2010-01-19 11:09 am (UTC)
posted by [identity profile] at 11:19am on 19/01/2010
I'm glad to find I'm not the only one. I was feeling like the last survivor, the blackened figure in tattered rags standing in the ruins of a decimated city screaming into the wind; 'why, God, why?!'

Well, maybe not quite as bad as that, but you know what I mean.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:32am on 19/01/2010
When I first saw your icon, I read "pubic menace." - kinda wondered what that was! LOL
posted by [identity profile] at 11:43am on 19/01/2010
Maybe that's what those bizarro Mars things are! (in my latest post ie)
posted by [identity profile] at 11:22am on 19/01/2010
The film hasn't been released here yet but we were watching the trailers the other day and my friend Rosie was like 'that's... different from what I thought the film would be' and I had to agree. To me, this new film is an AU. An AU where Holmes and Watson would be Americans who like to blow things up. It's not really a Sherlock Holmes movie, more like an action flick with characters who have their names. If we go and see the film with that in mind, we might have fun, otherwise, it could be a bit disappointing.

In any case, we'll see in a couple of weeks.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:26am on 19/01/2010
I wouldn't have minded some action if there's been something else to balance it out, but it was all action all the time and it's not my thing and I was so bored!

I hope you do enjoy it, most people seem to.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:35am on 19/01/2010
I haven't seen it, so I can't say whether I like it. I certainly wouldn't characterise Brett's Holmes as an action series. It's a "use you head" mystery show with lots of thinking...

Sorry to hear you're feeling off kilter!
posted by [identity profile] at 11:44am on 19/01/2010
Oh, I don't mind being off kilter, story of my life really. :o)
posted by [identity profile] at 01:23pm on 19/01/2010
I went to see the film and enjoyed it but agree that it did not engage me in the same way as the TV series with Jeremy Brett did.. and still does.

Much as I quite like RDJ, he is not my idea of Sherlock Holmes any more than Jude Law is Watson.

It would be a boring world if we all liked the same things so no need to fold up your tent and slip away. :)
posted by [identity profile] at 01:40pm on 20/01/2010
Oh, I've no intentions of going anywhere. I'm getting used to not being hip to my flist's jive. I jive alone to my own inner madness. :o)
posted by [identity profile] at 01:53pm on 19/01/2010
From the trailer I knew it was going to be nothing like the real Holmes--too many random explosions, so much punching!--but even granting it the weird premise that Sherlock Holmes and Watson are action detectives, I still found it tedious and poorly constructed. I know some Holmes stories did it, but a two hour plus movie is TOO LONG to leave the audience in the dark about key points, and just have one scene seem to follow another randomly, only to have a long expository speech at the end.

And I think the reason it reminded one commenter of From Hell is the RDJ was totally channeling Captain Jack Sparrow for his Holmes.

As for the slash, it was hyped as sooooo gay, it's going to be SUCH a homoerotic Holmes, and the people I was watching it with seemed to agree that there was more than the usual amount of "they're gay! see how gay they are?" implying but... I don't know... it seemed about on par with any buddy movie, to me. They seemed to lean awfully heavily on the "old married couple bickering" trope, and really, I find that to be one of the least interesting tools in the gay implication toolbox.

As it were.
posted by [identity profile] at 01:42pm on 20/01/2010
As usual, you say it all much better than I ever could and hit my nails right on their heads. I couldn't agree more.
posted by [identity profile] at 05:11pm on 19/01/2010
Its one of my passions too and I've seen the reviews for it and don't really fancy it - I'd get too annoyed with the messing with canon. Holmes and Watson just... Are . They don't need messing with.

And anyway Brett spoiled me for anyone else in the role.

But on a tangent did you ever see that Documentary a few years ago called the secret life of Conan Doyle? That was very good.
posted by [identity profile] at 01:46pm on 20/01/2010
I don't remember that specific title but I've seen a couple of Conan Doyle documentaries - I'd be surprised if one passed me by. :o) He was a fascinating chap, especially his interest in spiritualism and etc.

It's not really the messing with canon that irritated me so much as the over-emphasis on action to the exclusion of anything else, it was just incredibly boring.
posted by [identity profile] at 06:04pm on 19/01/2010
I saw it and liked it okay, and I actually did see the slash, but yeah, I wasn't bowled over.
posted by [identity profile] at 01:50pm on 20/01/2010
Where? Where was the slash? please tell me! I was watching for slash, I was eager for slash but slash came there none, not for me anyway, I thought it was just a bog-standard buddy movie with some bitchy bickering.
posted by [identity profile] at 06:34pm on 19/01/2010
I did enjoy the film, in large part because I love RDJ and because, unlike pretty much every film I've seen for the last 12 years in a movie theater, IT WASN'T ANIMATED! (As you can see, my standards are very low.) I thought it was a bit odd, and slow at times, and certainly nothing like I recall from my reading many long years ago of Sherlock Holmes, but it was NOT ANIMATED. It was, however, oddly dark (lightingwise), which made me glad I saw it in the theater and not on our small TV screen at home, where I would have missed a bit of what was going on. And have I mentioned the astounding fact that IT WASN'T ANIMATED?
posted by [identity profile] at 01:36pm on 20/01/2010
I haven't seen an animated film in a long while so - mildly confused but what they hey nonny no. I guess we all like different things, it'd be a dull old world if we didn't.
posted by [identity profile] at 04:59pm on 20/01/2010
I have a 12-year-old who is only now becoming interested in non-animated films that don't have superheroes in them. It's been a long, long decade for me, the parent who invariably accompanies him to the movies.
posted by [identity profile] at 06:47pm on 19/01/2010
Me too! So much flailing over that film and I have no idea why. To say I was underwhelmed...
posted by [identity profile] at 01:34pm on 20/01/2010
I don't understand it at all, I couldn't even see any slash (which was the main reason I went if I'm being totally honest) :o)
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posted by [identity profile] at 08:08pm on 19/01/2010

I should probably just fold up my tent and slip away now.

Oh no you don't! ::grabs your ankles:: *g*

posted by [identity profile] at 01:32pm on 20/01/2010

OK, OK, I'll stay - just don't ask me to watch Sherlock Holmes again and I'll be fine. *g*
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posted by [identity profile] at 11:46pm on 19/01/2010
I've had absolutely no desire to see it. It looked boring to me.
posted by [identity profile] at 01:31pm on 20/01/2010
It was tedious beyond belief.