posted by [identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com at 04:00pm on 26/10/2008
Jails are usually run by a local municipality, such as a county or city. [livejournal.com profile] indusnm laid out what types of prisoners they're used for pretty well.

Prisons, on the other hand, are generally run by the state's or federal government. They are for those who have been convicted of crimes and will be serving significant sentences. There are varying levels of security (e.g. Minimum, Maximum).

The vast majority of crimes are tried under State laws, hence the differences in procedure mentioned above. Federal crimes tend to be those types of things that interfere with trade or commerce, that are perpetrated across state lines, or that occur on Federal lands or territories.
 
posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 05:08pm on 26/10/2008
So - what would be the difference in terms of conditions, security, etc? - sorry to keep asking q's only we don;t have the same distinctions. In the UK, 'jail' - or 'gaol' to spell it the UK way, is just the lock-up at the police station. Whether convicted or remanded for trial, the prisoner would then be held in a prison, which is the big, state run institution. I'm really looking for what a US jail is like as a place to be living in, in contrast to a prison.
 
posted by [identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com at 05:39pm on 26/10/2008
To be honest, I've never been in or to one (with the exception of a tour of Alcatraz Island). I also have very little experience with the judicial system outside of watching 'crime procedure' shows on TV. I mean, I know generally what the functions of each are, but how they operate and what the differences in how they operate are is knowledge I just haven't needed. The best I can do is ask around on this end. Otherwise, the only thing I can think of is that you might check the website for the state your story would be set in or maybe the Bureau of Prisons website?
 
posted by [identity profile] laurie-ky.livejournal.com at 05:44pm on 26/10/2008
Depends on the size of county. Cook County Jail in Chicago is huge. My county jail, before ti was shut down had about four cells in it. These days, prisoners in my county are housed at a neighboring county's jail system.

A forensic psychological exam is done by a psychologist appointed by the court to determine if somebody understands what it means to go to court. If they don't, they are sent to State Mental hospitals without a trial, until their condition is considered improved enough to understand the legal procedures. If they don't improve, they might never actually go to trial but stay at the State Mental Hospital in a lock down unit, usually.

Laurie
 
posted by [identity profile] indusnm.livejournal.com at 12:21am on 29/10/2008
Definitely echo the check the state someone mentioned, and then the country. If you're a small town, probably it will be the same as your example. But the US incarcerates more people than hell, so now they're making prisons.
As for security, hmm- never been to one, but I'm guessing that also depends on the crime? You can probably have a lawyer visiting your cell, and you would likely be able to sit at a table across from a visitor. You would, with permission, get to touch them most likely.
Jails aren't fun, so while abuse would depend on the condition of the jail and the character of your warden, I think jails you spend most of your time in your cell and it's the typical bars type scenario. You would likely hve people locked up for drunk and disorderlies so some people literally just there to sleep off their drunk...
As a place to live in, I would throw out the permanent parts of the movie you've seen- people doing chores, laundry, cooking, etc. Instead, I would see people there waiting for something, to be moved, etc. They may be two or more to a cell, there are bunks, etc. I don't know if the toilet is always inside the cell in a jail... My guess is yes. Only because it would be hell to always take you to one.

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