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posted by [personal profile] panik at 01:24pm on 31/05/2007 under , ,
I just finished my latest fic - the one for mariojoe, the one she won for Moonridge 2006  (yup, it's only taken me a year to write ::hangs head in abject shame::)

OK, so... this story has quite a lot of first person in it, mostly in third, but switching into 1st from time to time, with the entire first chapter in 1st P; three voices. Now I know when you're reading it, that it should be apparent that it's moved into 1st, and who is talking, but should the formatting reflect that, do you think? I'm just experimenting with italics, different fonts, indenting pars - I'm just not sure...

Italics are probably the easiest, most recognisable way to separate out the 1st P sections, but I'm wondering if that's going to be too hard on the eyes when there are thousands of words of this (almost 3,000 continuous words in the first chapter alone)? - I'm wondering whether it's not better to just leave it all the same and let the narrative passages speak for themselves?

Any advice received with gratitude. (o:

Mood:: 'accomplished' accomplished
location: My beloved sofa, without which I would wither and die
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starwatcher: Western windmill, clouds in background, trees around base. (Default)
posted by [personal profile] starwatcher at 12:55pm on 31/05/2007
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When I read italics, I "hear" a change in voice -- emphasis, or thoughts, or dream (vision) sequence, or over the telephone, or another language, or sentinel hearing.

:::StarWatcher stares at the list::: Whew! Didn't realize it was so much; impressive what a crooked letter can do. *g*

But first person doesn't justify a "change" in voice -- it's still just "direct" storytelling. And, as you say, reading longer than a short scene in italics can get tiring for the eyes.

I'm wondering whether it's not better to just leave it all the same and let the narrative passages speak for themselves?

That's the solution I'd go with. With a scene break to let us know that 'something' has shifted, the reader should recognize first person -- and who's 'speaking' -- before the first paragraph has finished.

The K.I.S.S. solution -- Keep It Simple, Stupid -- is usually best.
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posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 02:22pm on 31/05/2007
"The K.I.S.S. solution -- Keep It Simple, Stupid -- is usually best."
LOL. I shall take that advice and chew on it well. Thank you. (o:

It's a complicated one. I'm inclined to think you're right and to leave it as it is.

And LJ's stopped telling me when people have posted... ::sigh::
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posted by [personal profile] starwatcher at 05:36am on 01/06/2007
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LOL. I shall take that advice and chew on it well.

*g* It's not original with me. Did you see [livejournal.com profile] justjeanette used it in her Sentinel Thursday story?
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posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 09:03am on 01/06/2007
I haven't read it yet, no - still catchng up.
 
I keep having to try (operative word is try) to drum the KISS principle into programming students so when the KISS challenge came up on TS-Thursday I couldn't help myself...

Maybe I should have?

Jeanette.....
 
posted by [identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com at 01:04pm on 31/05/2007
I'm not sure if this is possible in HTML... but maybe you could put the passages in 1st person as narrower blocks (i e widen the left and right margins a little), the same way one narrows the paragraphs of quoted material in nonfiction or in a thesis? I find that makes for a visual difference without being as intrusive as italics...

 
posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 02:18pm on 31/05/2007
Yeah, I had a crack at that, but, in the 1st chapter, there's a constant changing of voice; something like Naomi, then Blair, then Jim, then back to Naomi, then Blair then Naomi then Jim again, all 1st person. - so every section in chapter 1 would be indented.

I think Starwatcher's right and it's probably best to just leave it looking all the same and let the voices speak for themselves... ::shrug::

::Quiet squeak:: I don't know...!

Thanks for the advice, though - I'm glad I happened along here on a break and saw your comment; I'm not getting an email heads-up from LJ so lawd knos what else I'm missing. )o:
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posted by [personal profile] starwatcher at 05:37am on 01/06/2007
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It is, actually. The code is <ul> (unnumbered list) and </ul>
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posted by [identity profile] carodee.livejournal.com at 02:28pm on 31/05/2007
I'm going with [livejournal.com profile] starwatcher307 here. Use breaks and indicate who's speaking in the first sentence or as soon as possible. Formatting is nice but you always have to consider whether it enhances the readers' experience or not. I wrote a story with inner thoughts, flashbacks, and a third-party sorta mental-telepathy intrusion all in different fonts/italics, etc. and it was messy as hell. I'd have done far better to have saved the fancier formatting for the third-party thing and used plain breaks/punctuation stuff to set the rest of it apart.
 
posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 03:23pm on 31/05/2007
Message received and understood.

I was just playing with it and I think I agree, whatever I do to indicate 1st P. looks messy and *really* hard to read. Some of those passages are really long...

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