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posted by [identity profile] fluterbev.livejournal.com at 01:55pm on 22/12/2008
Heh, I've been reading a list recently full of old-school know-it-alls with a very high opinion of themselves, and people who desperately want to be regarded as old-school-know-it-alls. It has led me to the certain conclusion that fandom is 99.9% full of people who are up their own arses!

It's certainly not as if I don't get anything out of it, though, so I hesitate to cut all my ties as that would be definitely cutting off my nose to spite my face. Flouncing is so not my thing, man! I love LJ (probably because it *is* possible to set comfortable parameters) as well as the lovely people I've met and continue to meet, and I still love Jim and Blair with a passion. But I am all for defining my own fannish space free of arseholes, and operating within my own personal comfort zone, hence the fact that I completely understand where you are coming from :-).

Whoops I used the word arse rather a lot there. Quite freudian, perhaps? ;-)

So! My advice is define your own space, and enjoy it within parameters you can live with. You don't owe anybody anything, and you've already given a hell of a lot. And don't lose sight of the fact that, in amongst the people who've been rude, obnoxious and entitled, there are also people (some of them who are not all that good at expressing it) who've genuinely been grateful for what you did ::hugs::.

 
posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com at 03:08pm on 22/12/2008
Ah. Is this a list I know? I suspect not, the biddies-knitting circle of Constant Complaint has been mostly silent on the very few lists I still frequent of late.

What a complicated sentence that was.

Flouncing huh. Am I flouncing? ::is worried:: I don't mean to suggest you're accusing me of taking the site down as a flounce (she said hastily) - said site just seems to me an expensive waste of my time, all the things I enjoyed about it died and all attempts to revive them have failed and - I just don't care much any more - But I can see how it could be construed as flouncing. I hope no one will think that of me because it's not the case at all. ::is full of neuroses and doubt::

I agree with everything else you said SO whole heartedly. TS yes, fandom... sometimes, but more and more, no. It's just so up it's own arse and it's not just the older contingent that we know and... whatever.*g* It's a lot of the newer ones too. I just feel myself withdrawing from all that. I have new interests that, to a large extent, are filling the hole that fandom used to.

Your final par fills me with warmth like the hot toddy you've just given me the idea to make. I love you. You're a glittering star in the firmament of this fandom, honey.Long may you shine. ♥
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posted by [identity profile] fluterbev.livejournal.com at 04:15pm on 22/12/2008
I will PM you about the list :-)

No, you're not flouncing. That word is usually reserved for those who need attention so badly that they throw a big hissy fit when they don't think their briliiance is being sufficiently recognised in the hopes of being begged to return. Several times, in some noteable cases. The repeat offenders never fail to make me giggle at their antics ;-). What you are doing is throwing in the towel when something onerous became too much. One is done by nutcases, the other is done by sensible people like you ;-)

Fandom ::flails::. I just... honestly, I dislike it so much these days. It's like my eyes have been opened, the glitter has so comprehensively worn off. Like you, I've got other things to occupy my time, and though I absolutely adore Jim and Blair I really don't give two hoots these days if I share that love with anyone but a few like minded souls. I'm keeping it all safely at arms length from now on! Sheesh, so many nutcases, and they're all over the place!

Much love to you too, honey ♥. Let's lick each other's bums in the time honoured tradition! \o/

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